The Walk

The video Walk Through is available (amongst other sources) on YouTube in two parts
Part.1 takes us up to the point where Zimmerman gets out of the truck.
Part.2 takes us from there up to the shooting.

Let's be absolutely clear about something:
The Walk Through is not a timed reconstruction.
It simply 'puts a face/place' on events that have been described in the recording of non-emergency call, the statement and the interviews.
The times of events are recorded - to the second - on the recording of his call.



Part.1 is at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEpCnpnHODI

A summary of the first 6 minutes, 10 seconds of video  is:
  • Zimmerman driving North along Retreat View Circle from his home in the South West corner, sees Martin at (A)
    Note that although the community is gated, there is no fence or wall in the North West corner. Pedestrians use this informal route in and out.
  • He sees Martins behaviour as suspicious. He stops to look. Martin sees him.
  • Martin proceeds East along Retreat View Circle.
  • Zimmerman passes him and stops at (B), the parking bays at the front of the Clubhouse on Retreat View Circle.
  • The call begins here. 
  • Sometime after the call starts, Martin passes him, keeps looking at Zimmerman's parked car, and turns right down Twin Trees Lane. 
  • He sees Martin, somewhere between C and D, but has to be about C(1). He parks at C.

Note on August 2nd, 2012

The position (A) in the diagram has been questioned by some. The position is accurate. It is very clear in Zimmerman's description in the video. He stops at the first of the two bends in the NW corner and points back at the gap.

The reason for people to question (A) is that - as per the introduction ( at 0:48) in the Frank Taaffe video report in the Maps page - the "cut though" seen as commonly used by pedestrians is at the second bend.
Either he first saw Martin at that first bend or he is pointing to that location because of a record of incidents at the houses. Pointing to that location would add support to his painting of Martin's behaviour to be suspicious.
In the light of the huge discrepancies between the call-recording and the walk-through, it may well be that Zimmerman's pointing to (A) may be as unreliable as much else. However, (A) in the diagram is where he clearly points to in that video.

The timings involved in all this are uncertain.
The distance involved (A) to (B) is roughly 400 feet. It is important to note that Martin must arrive at (B) very soon after Zimmerman gets there. If he doesn't, the timeline indicated by the call for Martin's reported movements on the pathway on the East of Twin Trees will be unachievable in the description of events in the walk through. Martin would have to run/jog from (A) to (B) if Zimmerman drove there at faster than Martin's walking pace - and Zimmerman described Martin back at (A) as stopping and looking around.
Alternatively, Zimmerman would have to drive very slowly, possibly maintaining a view of Martin all the time. He does not describe doing this. In the walk-through video at 4:00 he simply says "I drove past him, and I went to the clubhouse.
In the Walk Through, Zimmerman describes Martin as walking past him at the clubhouse (B) and he losing sight of Martin when he went down Twin Trees. This might imply that he drove (A) to (B) slowly, keeping just ahead of Martin and maintaining a view of him. This would have Martin passing Zimmerman at (B) very soon after the call begins. This would also have Martin very much aware that Zimmerman was "following from in front" him.
Zimmerman makes no mention of this in the call, but this is what has to have happened for the call timeline to work for the events as described in the walk through. As an aside: Zimmerman actually names the road now as "Twin Trees Lane". He must have been told this overnight, as he says in his interviews and later in the Walk Through that he did not know the name on the previous night.

Something very strange:

It is at the clubhouse that we hear the first example in the Walk-Through a strange insistence by Zimmerman throughout his interviews that the Dispatcher kept demanding to know where Martin was and what direction he was taking. Zimmerman is positively manic on the topic. It arises repeatedly in his interviews, as if the Dispatcher was constantly nagging him. This clearly was not the case, as is undeniably evidenced by the recording of the call. Despite this, the topic dominates all of Zimmerman's interviews.
In this section of the Walk Through, while he is parked at the clubhouse (B), Zimmerman says:
"Then the dispatcher said “Where did he go? What direction did he go in. And I said I don’t know.  Because he cut down here and made a right  And that’s Twin Trees Lane”
And they said  what direction did he go in? and I said I don’t know. I can’t see him And they said can you get to somewhere you can see him And I said yeah I can, so I backed  out, and I made this right here."
This exchange with the Dispatcher never happened. At this stage of the Walk-Through, we are just at the start of the recorded call - in the opening 30 seconds or so.
In the call, Zimmerman did not mention the walk past by Martin at the clubhouse at all. For some reason.
The only time that he gets asked about where Martin is going and direction will be 2 minutes and 9 seconds into the call - just as Zimmerman is in process of getting out of his truck The one and only time he gets asked for an address will be 3 minutes and 18 seconds into the call. At this stage he is  up by the T-junction.


Twin Trees

  • Zimmerman loses sight of Martin and so he drives into Twin Trees,
  • He sees Martin on the grass somewhere near (C)
  • Zimmerman parks on the left hand side of the road just beyond that and short of the bend
  • He sees Martin walk and disappear from sight down the central pathway. Martin was turning right at the path T-junction (D). He says Martin looked back and saw him before disappearing.
The Walk Through is perhaps a little confusing as to exact positions. The car stops at the position at which Zimmerman says he first saw Martin. The indicated parking position for the truck is slightly beyond that, nearer the bend.
The most likely walk through interpretation is that Zimmerman came down Twin Trees slowly. Martin was walking away from where first spotted (C) and towards the T-junction (D). The truck parks after Martin had passed that point.
The alternative would have the truck passing Martin, and then Martin in turn passing it. This would be really inflame any tension that might be present between the two. It is not described by Zimmerman.

 Now we can connect events to the timeline from the call
Up until now, we have no real basis for estimating speeds A to B other than knowing that Martin has to be moving at around the same speed that the truck is driving at ( or v.v.) This is because the timeline of the call recording is steadily ticking away from Zimmerman arriving at the clubhouse (B). If Martin is moving slower than the truck, Zimmerman is waiting longer at B, chewing seconds off the timeline.
We are about to hit the first reliable milepost point between the events of the Walk Through and the events in the call. In the Walk Through, Zimmerman describes  Martin as disappearing (at a walk) away from him and turning right down the central path from (D)
"And I saw him standing right …. " Right about there? "Yes"  (The car seems to stop where Zimmerman indicated first seeing Martin)
"And I saw him walking back that way" – (pointing East at the path) "Then cut through the back of the houses"  (indicating right )  (i.e down the dogwalk at position D ) "And he looked back and saw me and he cut through the houses."
This phase of spotting Martin would have to coincide with the call :
0:42  Zimmerman: “He’s here now. He was just staring” This means that at best, Martin was at (C) by 0:42 in the call. In reality, he might have to be further along, as he has to disappear down the T-junction and then reappear by 0:47 at latest to start approaching the truck.
(C) is 300 feet from (B) by the most direct foot route - diagonally over the road and cutting the house corner, staying on the grass. He hasn't got the full 42 seconds in which to cover it. A number the 42 seconds would have to be deducted to cover the time that Zimmerman was on the call before Martin passed him at the clubhouse.
We are into a situation of "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" The more call seconds that it takes before Martin passes Zimmerman at the clubhouse, the less seconds Martin has in which to reach the vicinity of (C) by 0:42 in the call.
Say the gap is two seconds, giving Martin 40 seconds to cover the 300 feet. That would raise a big issue in the moves from (A) to (B). With that sort of short time gap, it would mean that Zimmerman would have had to kerb-crawl Martin - staying within about 10 feet of him - or at least be that close towards the approach to (B). That would be really provocative.
To cover the 300 feet to (C)  in 40 seconds, Martin would need to move at an average 7.5 feet per second. Over 5 miles per hour. That's a very fast walk (C) to (D) is about 170 feet. If Martin kept up his very fast walk of 7.5 feet per second, he would reach  (D) in about 22 seconds. He would get there at  0:42 + 0:22 = 1:04 in the call timeline.
BUT - Martin has to disappear down the T-junction and then reappear by 0:47 at latest to start approaching the truck, because that's the point in the call where Zimmerman begins to describe Martin staring at him and beginning to approach the truck.

There is a serious problem here 

(But it is resolved if any circling happened - and was not reported to the dispatcher - at the Clubhouse)
The only way to resolve this is to assume that although Martin was walking when he passed the truck, and was walking when Zimmerman regained sight of him in Twin Trees, he ran fast - just for the time he was out of sight, and had coincidentally just stopped that running when Zimmerman saw him again.
It might not seem very likely, but that's the only way that Zimmerman's walk through description can be made to match the absolute certainty of the timeline recorded in the call. Let's move on and work it back from the time at which Zimmerman indicated Martin to disappear for the first time down the path. In the Walk Through, Zimmerman says:
"And I saw him walking back that way" – pointing at the path "Then cut through the back of the houses"  (indicating right )  (i.e down the dogwalk) "And he looked back and saw me and he cut through the houses" "I’m on the phone with non-emergency. And he came back, and he started walking up towards the grass" (indicating the sloping grass bank behind the Retreat View Circle houses)   "and he came down and circled  my car"
This has to coincide with the recorded call:
0:47 Zimmerman: Now he’s just staring at me. 0:55 Dispatcher: “He’s near the clubhouse?” Zimmerman:”Yeah. Now he’s coming towards me”.


 A funny aside about "Near" and "Right By"

That "Yeah" to "He's near the clubhouse?" is what had everybody assuming that Martin had approached the truck from the Clubhouse direction - back in the day when we only had the call recording  (and Frank Taaffe's narration of what Zimmerman told him) to work with. The Clubhouse is 400 feet from the T-junction, but Zimmerman appears to have seen the T-junction as 'near the Clubhouse' in exactly the same way as Martin might have described it to the girl as being "right by" the house he was staying at. By stunning coincidence, the distance from the T-junction to the house is also 400 feet. I suspect that this revelation will be unwelcome to those who argued that Martin being "right by" the house absolutely meant that he was at the door of it. On the other hand, if the circling happened at the Clubhouse - despite Zimmerman describing it as happening at Twin Trees , saying that Martin simply walked past him at the Clubhouse - then "Near the Clubhouse" means precisely that.- as in mere feet away. Before any rabid Zimmerman excusists jump in to say "So Nya-nya. Near means near and so does Right by", they should consider the implications: These would be that in addition to Zimmerman getting the whole sequence of what he and the Dispatcher said completely upside down, he would also be getting the circling completely and crazily out of whack. It is not even certain that there was any circling. Zimmerman did not mention it the call. It could simply have been Martin walking past.

If we give him the best chance possible for making his Walk Though account stand up, we'll assume that Martin only disappeared for a single second, and that Zimmerman reported his reappearance immediately at
0:47 Zimmerman: Now he’s just staring at me.
So he disappeared at 0:46.
He was spotted walking at  0:42 He was walking at the time according to Zimmerman. Let's put him at a fast walk of 6 feet per second. 4 seconds at 6 feet per second would take him 24 feet. 24 feet from ..... let's say the back corner of the house rather than the T-junction .. to give the account as much chance as possible.
It simply can not work. At 24 feet back from the house corner, he is still only half-way back along the wall of the house. He's at position indicated as C(1) in the image above. He's about 130 feet beyond the point where Zimmerman indicates he was at the time of spotting him. ( 0:42)
If he was at that new position at 0:42, then he would have covered a distance of 420  feet from the clubhouse (B) in that time (less the seconds for arriving at (B) after the call started).
420 feet in say 40 seconds is an average speed of  10.5 feet per second or 7 miles per hour. That's a run. Also, that's for Martin passing the truck at (B) only 2 seconds after the call starts. This would be a definite provocative 'kerb-crawling;
For a 4-second gap, Martin would have to run at 11 feet per second or 7.5 miles per hour. This running would be just exactly for the time that Zimmerman could not see him, as he was walking when leaving (B) and was walking when Zimmerman next spotted him.
So maybe he did that, and also Zimmerman was grossly mistaken about the position in which he spotted him. The position in which he would have to have spotted him to fit the call timeline is indicated as C(1) in the image above.
By another stunning coincidence, that position is just about where Zimmerman will say he was attacked. It's clear that there are "issues" with the positions and movements indicated Walk Through thus far. The timeline in the recording of the call is an absolute. If something can not stand up against that timeline, then it is nonsense.


Martin approaching and circling the truck

In the Walk Through, Zimmerman says:
"And he came back, and he started walking up towards the grass, (indicating the sloping grass bank behind the RVC houses)   and he came down and circled  my car, and I told the operator that…He was circling my car and I didn’t hear if he said anything He had his hand in his waistband And I think I told the operator that They said "Where are you" And I could not remember the name of the street Because I don’t live on this street Retreat View Circle goes in a circle … And I said "I don’t know". And he said "we need an address". And I said "I don’t know an address". I gave them my address And they said "give us directions to get to you", and I said to tell the police to go straight at the Clubhouse , you go left and my truck will be there And again they asked me where he went and what direction he went in, and I said I don’t know And then I thought to get out and look for a street sign So I got out my car and I started walking" (indicating towards path)
Yet again, first at the clubhouse phase and now here again, Zimmerman is into his performance about being asked where and in what direction Martin went. The One True Witness tells us that Zimmerman in the Walk-Through is inventing this. So Martin reappears up at the T-junction area - according to the Walk Through This is what actually happened (as recorded by his own words in the call )
Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.
Dispatcher:  OK-you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?
Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse… Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the-he's near the clubhouse right now?
Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.
Dispatcher: OK.
Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens. Ok.
Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.
Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, ok?
Zimmerman: (unclear)  you can get an officer over here.  (( Breaking in over the Dispatcher at “just” ))
Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Zimmerman: Okay. These (expletive) they always get away. Yep. When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse. Dispatcher: So it's on the left hand side from the clubhouse?
Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Shit! He's running.
Ambient sounds are heard which may be Zimmerman unbuckling his seat belt and his vehicle's "open door" chime sounding. The change in his voice and the sound of wind against his cell phone mic indicate that he has left his vehicle and is now walking.
Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.
Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
Zimmerman: The back entrance
Zimmerman gave the Clubhouse address when he started the call. That's where he says he was. The Dispatcher queries the "111" - probably knows it should be 4 digits. As far as the Dispatcher is concerned, this is all taking place at the clubhouse.
Zimmerman has actually moved into Twin Trees and is at the far bend at this stage . The Dispatcher asks if Martin is "near" the clubhouse, and Zimmerman says "Yeah" Happy dispatcher - does not require an address. He's got one.
Zimmerman starts to describe (badly) how to get to his truck, but this is cut short by Martin running. Zimmerman gets out of the truck immediately. He's out before any questions are asked. Then..... The Dispatcher asks which way Martin is going. Zimmerman tells him. Happy Dispatcher. The target is running towards the back entrance. Easy peasy on the mapping system.

Zimmerman got out of the truck, solely because his perception of Martin running triggered him. Nobody at that stage had asked him for an address or a direction. He's following. OK. He's not following. He only thinks that he is. The dispatcher hears ambient wind noises and Zimmerman breathing a bit funny - and totally misinterprets this as Zimmerman running or jogging, so this happens:
Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Ok.
When Zimmerman says "Yeah" (He's following), he is completely mistaken. His lawyer says that in order to be described as following a person, that person has to be in sight. If the person is not in sight, all that is happening is a "going in the same direction" thing. Even if Zimmerman was following, he's not following after he says OK. Nothing changes in the noises we hear that sound like someone running/jogging and breathing a bit heavy. Even if his motion has not changed in any way from a condition in which he himself incorrectly believed to be describable as "following", he still isn't following after he says "OK" because ...... well, just because. If you follow me.
Zimmerman gets out of the truck at 2:09 in the call.  He starts this immediately after saying "He's running" He is in process of getting out when the Dispatcher asks about where Martin is running. The one and only time he gets asked about an address comes 1 minute and 9 seconds after he got out of the truck. At that stage, he was up by the T-junction.

What's happening with Zimmerman?

Both at the clubhouse phase and in this phase, he not remembering properly what actually happened. It is more like he's remembering his emotions; his feelings. There is a saying:
People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did. People will never forget how you made them feel.
Zimmerman is the local Neighbourhood Watch coordinator. He 'runs with cops'. He may have realised as soon as he drove into Twin Trees that he had no idea what it was called. The place is just a ring road with two minor roads cutting through it. How on earth could a NW guy not know the names of two roads within the gates. It's gob-smacking. He's getting away with saving face by giving directions to his truck, but later on, the Dispatcher will ask him "What address are you parked in front of?". Zimmerman will respond "I don't know, it's a cut through so I don't know the address." Then the dispatcher will grind his face into the mud with "Okay do you live in the area?" There's Zimmerman doing his NW thing - and he comes off looking like an idiot. It is worth bearing in mind that the only reason that the Dispatcher wanted to know "What address are you parked in front of?" was this:
Dispatcher: Alright George we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:Yeah.
Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?
 Zimmerman responds to this by giving directions to his truck. The first time he tried this, was unprompted by the Dispatcher. Zimmerman just volunteered it, while watching Martin walking away from the truck. He made a total mess of it. It went:
When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse.
Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?
Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Sh*t! He's running.
When you listen to the call recording, his frustration at the mess is unmistakable. This time around he does better
Zimmerman: Um, if they come in through the, uh, (knocking sound) gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, (knocking sound) straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, that's my truck...[unintelligible - but seems to be Ridgeline Honda]
The operator may be remembering the last attempt. That memory and all the knocking may have made him a bit impatient. He breaks in over Zimmerman's "That's my truck....." with "What address are you parked outside of?"   Remember this: The only need for an address arises out of Zimmerman's request for a meet up with the incoming patrol car. It has nothing whatsoever to do with where Martin went or in what direction.
Any address is  solely about the patrol car getting to Zimmerman's location - for a meet up.
The question only gets asked after Zimmerman is in the area of the T-junction When Zimmerman starts to get out of the truck, it is immediately after "He's running". The Dispatcher had up to then asked no questions about where Martin is headed or what address might be involved. It's there in the recording as a clear sequence of events.


Something else - to do with an awareness of carrying guns

Zimmerman's account of the conversation with the Dispatcher is patently removed from reality - both as  to time line and to content His memories of the night are tied to his emotional responses to events. It's interesting that he thinks that  "He's got his hand in his waistband" is worthy of remembering and mention both at the time of the call, and again in the Walk Through. This time around, he chooses to describe a circling of the truck. He didn't think to do so during the call. Yet the circling he describes in the Walk Through could be interpreted as threatening. On the night he simply describes Martin getting nearer to him and then going away. We do hear a moment of panic in his voice in the call, but it is left to a listener to assume that it is merely Martin being close by that makes him so concerned. The one thing that he does mention on the night and now remembers to mention about all of that approach is "He's got his hand in his waistband". Clearly, "He's got his hand in his waistband" made a big impact on Zimmerman on the night. He considered that action to be very significant. Of what? Zimmerman has a gun in his waistband. The impact  is put down to "mirroring". Zimmerman sees his own gun in Martin's pose.  There will be a story later - that Zimmerman totally forgot about the hard bit of metal on his hip until he felt Martin reaching down there. Sure! It might perhaps be that Zimmerman didn't think about the gun and a possible attack by the dog named Big Boi as he walked from his own door to the truck If he had forgotten about it, he definitely got reminded by "He's got his hand in his waistband". When he got out of his truck and went off into the dark place where  he had seen Martin going, but was definitely not following even if he told the Dispatcher he was following, 'n was only looking for a street sign, 'n goodness me no way was he looking for the punk....... He was well reminded that he had a gun.


Back to the Walk Through - Martin approaching, circling and departing.

The timeline associated with Zimmerman's Walk Through description of this phase seems to be straightforward, with sufficient time for the distances to be covered at a walk. In the Walk Through, Zimmerman describes this phase as:
And he came back, and he started walking up towards the grass, (indicating the sloping grass bank behind the RVC houses)   and he came down and circled  my car,
Apart from the circling, the only point he mentions in the Walk Through is the "hand in his waistband" He doesn't describe martin walking away and breaking into a run   We know that Martin was walking towards the truck at least by
0:59 Now he's coming towards me
1:03 Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens. Ok.
1:17 Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.
Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, ok?
1:28 Zimmerman: (unclear)  you can get an officer over here.  (( Breaking in over the Dispatcher at “just” ))
Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.
1:36 Zimmerman now seems to be calmer. “OK.” We hear rustling sounds starting up.
1:37 Zimmerman: These ***holes, they always get away.  The rustling sounds continue until 1:46 Yep. When you come to the clubhouse ....  Zimmerman starts to give direction to his truck. He messes this up, and is then interrupted by... 
2:07 “Sh**. He’s running”.
The rustling sounds starting at 1:36 must mark him turning in his seat to keep an eye on Martin as he moves behind the truck and then walks around to come back on the other side/ The sounds stop at around 1:46. This implies a mid-point - when Martin is directly behind the truck - as 1:41
This is an interesting indicator of his state of mind.
Between 1:17 and 1:28, Zimmerman had begun to sound concerned, with a note of panic at 1:28 This might be due to the fact that Martin was approaching along ground that sloped up from the road. Combined with his 6 foot plus height, that could have lent him a formidable air.
The panic is momentary. At 1:37, Zimmerman is referring to "***holes". His tone suggests that he's back in control.
This is 4 seconds before Martin would reach midpoint of the circling, at 1:41. By 1:46, Zimmerman is settling down to giving directions. No signs of panic now. So: Zimmerman had a moment of panic, but recovered quickly.
There is something very suspect about this.
It has Zimmerman panicking as Martin gets close, but then being quite calm as Martin actually circles right around the truck in a very threatening manner. Zimmerman is so at ease with this circling that he doesn't even think to mention it to the dispatcher.
It's simply not credible. At 2:07, we get "He's running". That gives us (at least) 42 seconds of moving to the furthest part, which at a guessed walking speed of 4.3 feet per second would indicate about 180 feet. The T-junction is about 170 feet away, so no problem with that. It gives us 26 seconds of moving back towards the T-junction, before the run. At a guessed walking speed of 4.3 feet per second this would indicate about 112 feet. That would have him at least half-way along  the side of the townhouse before starting a run. No problem with the overall time elapsed, but major problems in matching Zimmerman's recorded call  to his Walk Through narrative.

An alternative picture:

I have seen people suggest that any circling might have happened back at the Clubhouse. It is worth considering - even if Zimmerman in the Walk-Through says that Martin simply walks by - and describes the circling happening from the T-Junction. Zimmerman's descriptions after the event are not reliable as to sequence - when considered against the absolute time line reported in the call as events unfolded. The first time that Zimmerman seems to report seeing Martin appearing after the call starts is
0:42  Zimmerman: “He’s here now. He was just staring”
0:47 Zimmerman: Now he’s just staring at me.
0:55 Dispatcher: “He’s near the clubhouse?” Zimmerman:”Yeah. Now he’s coming towards me”.
Martin is described as approaching
1:30 Zimmerman appears to have a moment of panic - which might be the point of closed approach by Martin
Then we hear noises - that might be Zimmerman backing out and driving down Twin Trees
1:36 Zimmerman now seems to be calmer. “OK”
1:37 Zimmerman: These ***sholes, they always get away. He certainly seems to have the lost any tone of sounding intimidated when he says that. Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.  1:46 The rustling sounds stop.
1:47 Zimmerman: Yep. When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse. Dispatcher: So it's on the left hand side from the clubhouse? Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Zimmerman is making a big mess of this, and the frustration in his voice is very evident. This is suddenly interrupted: 2:07 Zimmerman “Sh**. He’s running”.
What if the circling actually happened at the Clubhouse? The noises we hear in the recording would be Zimmerman driving. As he passes the side of the clubhouse and the mailboxes, he is describing how to get there. Maybe he makes a mess of the directions because he is (1) driving down there, (2) picturing a patrol car coming in the gate (3) looking out for Martin. Martin sees the lights of the truck coming at him and breaks into a run. Timeline:
1:38 Noises start - that sounded like rustling
2:07 "Sh**. He's running."
That's 29 seconds Just for ball-park, lets look at the Walk-Trough video and see were 29 seconds gets them. It's rough, because this is not a reconstruction. Walk-through 4:48: "Then he walked past me." Walk-through 5:20: The car backs out. Walk-through 5:49: (29 seconds later) The car had come round the bend and is moving along the straight. Zimmerman could have driven faster, but we're close. Zimmerman is describing two things at the same time in the Walk-Through here. He's describing where he parked and indicates that it is right up at the bend, short of the ford truck and near the sign 9 on the path - although he speaks of a sign in the yard. He's simultaneously talking about seeing Martin walking away up the path and down the central path at the T-junction. Then he's suddenly pointing to the side, at a point well short of the bend. "Right here? Yes" It could be that he's describing where he parked. He certainly exited the truck immediately on "He's running". It is quite possible within the timeline dictated by the recording for things to have happened this way. It only makes a truck-length or so difference in the parking position. It has no effect on what follows. Circling at the Clubhouse is possible. It would just means that Zimmerman's memory of events is a shambles. It is already clear that his recounting of who said what when is totally at odds with the actual recording. So why not be confused about this? Circling at the Clubhouse would resolve some big questions:
  1. Martin would have to pass Zimmerman at the clubhouse within seconds of the call starting in order for the call timeline to work with the circling in Twin Trees. 
  2. He would then have to break into a run while out of sight of Zimmerman, but then just happen to be walking again when Zimmerman reports him in Twin Trees.
  3. It isn't possible for Martin to walk from point (C) to the T-junction to disappear and reappear in the time dictated by call.
  4. I can't hear any noises in the early part of the recording that would be Zimmerman driving.I can hear noises for the right order of timespan if the circling happened at the Clubhouse.
Thinking about this. I'm now pretty convinced that if any circling occurred then this is what happened. Circling at the clubhouse. It's not an article of faith with me. It just seems to fit the call recording much better than Zimmerman's Walk-Through. The sounds that I had interpreted as Zimmerman turning in his seat to watch Martin circling could actually be Zimmerman driving from the Clubhouse into  Twin Trees. Try as I might, I can't find any driving sounds in the earlier part of the call - which is when it would have to happen for the circling to take place in Twin Trees. Try it yourself. Listen to the call recording twice.

First time. Use the walk through.

Zimmerman starts the call. He is parked at the clubhouse. Martin approaches walking along RetreatView Circle. He passes the truck, staring at Zimmerman. Zimmerman does not mention this. Martin disappears down twin trees. Zimmerman reverses out and drives down Twin Trees. There are absolutely no background sounds that indicate the truck is moving. All the while Zimmerman is talking about the real suspicious guy. 0:42 "He's here now". Zimmerman has completed the drive into Twin Trees and has spotted Martin up ahead. Martin stares at Zimmerman. He then disappears down the central path at the T-junction. He reappears immediately, approaches the truck, circles it, walks away. Then - 1:30 Zimmerman freaks. Loud background noises start and continue for about 29 seconds. For the walk through, these would have to be Zimmerman turning in his seat to watch Martin circling him. Zimmerman's starts to describe how to get to him in Twin Trees. 2:07 "He's running".

Second time, listen to the approach and circling taking place at the clubhouse.

Zimmerman is reporting a real suspicious guy. 0:42 "He's here now" Martin stares at the truck and approaches close to it. He is either just walking past or actually circles. 1:30 Zimmerman freaks, but recovers quickly. Loud background noises start and continue for about 29 seconds. This would be Zimmerman driving into Twin Trees. He's describing how to get there. The truck lights pick up Martin, who thought maybe he has lost the truck, so he runs. 2:07 "He's running" But then, have a look at the section about the Clubhouse CCTV analysis in the Elephants page. That indicates Zimmerman's story about parking at the clubhouse and starting his call there, with Martin passing him - to be bogus.

 

 

Now Part.2 of the Walk Through ~ the (not) Following phase

A source of this is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmO9hXHC_o
Zimmerman describes himself as beginning to walk (East, towards the T-junction)
"I was still on the phone with non-E And I started walking, but I didn’t see a street sign here, but I knew if I went straight through, that’s Retreat View Circle. And I could give him an address, because he said give me the address of the house you’re in front of - And there's no address, because this is the back of the houses.
He's on this address thing again, but that question still has not been asked at this stage in the call.
 So I walk straight through here, and I didn’t see him at all And I was walking, and I was still on the phone
I got to about here  (a few feet short of the T  - beside the last little tree) And I had a flashlight. The flashlight was dead though
We hear noises on the call record that could correspond to him slapping his flashlight.
And I looked around. Didn’t see anybody And I told non-E. You know what, he’s gone. He's not even here.
Now he's standing at the T-junction. He may remembering that he said "He ran" What he has forgotten, the One True Witness has not forgotten.
 Zimmerman: I"t's a home it's [house number removed], (knocking sound) Oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is."In other words, on the night, Zimmerman suspected that Martin might well be near enough to overhear the address.
So I still thought I could use the address, so I walked all the ways through Actually walked all the way to the street And I was going to give them this address (pointing maybe at the house across the street And they said He’s not there, do you still want a police officer. And I said yes
 Now he’s on the sidewalk of Retreat View Circle
And they said Are you following him?  Oh I’m sorry. Back there, they said are you following him? And I said yes because I was in the area, and he said we don’t need you to do that. And I said OK, that’s when I walked straight through here to get the address so that I could meet the police officer
 He didn't indicate a position at which the OK happened. He remembered it to late. He just indicates that it happened 'back there'.


Later that day, in the warm-up to his Voice Stress Test, he remembers that this happened as he was passing the T-Junction. He knows as he was able to look down the central path where he says he saw Martin turn to disappear. This is at 29:20 in the test video, or 6:47 PM on the clock.
To give his story the best chance, let's say that he had only just got past the back of the corner house and was still about 18 feet short of the T-Junction. Truck to past corner is about 140 feet.
He got out of the truck, door slammed and walking at 2:15 in the call.
"Are you following him?" is asked at 2:23 in the call.
So that's 140 feet in 8 seconds. - That's over 17 feet per second - walking at nearly 12 miles per hour.
A jog would be 6 miles per hour. 12 is a fast run.
Even jogging, he would still be in Twin Trees - and he says he was walking - and the noises and breathlessness are "wind"





And they said, where do you want him to come to, and I said just tell him to meet me at my truck Next to the clubhouse Straight in the clubhouse and makes a left. I have a Honda Ridgeline, Silver Honda Ridgeline Parked right there. I’ll meet him right there So I started walking back

This is where his whole story starts to disintegrate.

  1. He asserts that he ended the call with an agreement to meet back at his truck.
  2. He asserts that he ended the call and immediately started to walk back towards his truck.
    No hanging around. Not going to a door for a number. Just about turn and head back.
This quest for an address at which to meet the officer - that never was put to him - but that he's been OCD about a number of times up to now in the Walk Through and in his interviews -- is unceremoniously dropped. Talk about fickle! It's like a Knight of the Round Table getting within sight of wherever the Holy Grail is, and saying "Ah the Hell with it. I'm going back to Camelot." His whole quest has been to talk up a storm about imaginary demands from the Dispatcher for and exact address (and the whereabouts/direction of Martin). Maybe he thinks that if he repeats the story enough times, people will believe it. He has invented a story. The story gives him an excuse to be out of his truck and up at the top of the central pathway area. He might have gotten away with it. He could have convinced the world that he really believed he needed an address, but..

He made three huge mistakes

A) He had not realised that the One True Witness says accurately that he got out of the truck before any questions about address or directions were asked. The One True Witness says: Zimmerman got out of the truck solely in order to follow Martin The One True Witness can not lie - can not remember wrongly. B) He had not realised that the One True Witness recording shows that in the last moment of the call, this happened:
Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then? Zimmerman: Yeah that's fine. Dispatcher: Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you around there, okay? Zimmerman: Actually could you have them, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at? Dispatcher: Okay, yeah that's no problem.
A) He had not realised that the call time was automatically logged -  and the the times of the 911s were also automatically logged
"So I started walking back" Yes. He started walking back - at 19:13:41
The distance from the side of the road at Retreat View Circle - where he describes ending the call - to the T-Junction is 87 feet. An average walking pace of 4.3 feet per second would have him there in  20 seconds. The place at which he indicates he was accosted is a further 7 feet beyond the T-junction. Say another 2 seconds max. The Walk Through is not a reconstruction. We can't assume that the time it will take him to do the walk now is precisely the same time that it took on the night. But... let's measure it just for the sake of ball-park. He sets off at 2:31 in the video He gets to the T-junction at 2:50 19 seconds. I had estimated 20 He's at the 'confrontation' position a second later. You can have him walk a bit slower to spin out the time if you want to, but you're never going to get him slow enough to explain why the first 911 call is logged as connecting at 19:16:11
That's 2 minutes and 30 seconds after the call ended and after Zimmerman purportedly started a walk of 94 feet

 It is unquestionable ( One True Witness) that

  1. Zimmerman got out of the truck in order to follow Martin
  2. Zimmerman was wandering about for a minimum of 2 minutes and  30 seconds after the call ended and before the first 911 call connected.
  3. "He's got his hand in his waistband" is the one detail that Zimmerman from the call that he thinks worthy of mention when describing the circling in the Walk-Through. Gun/Weapon 
  4. When he ended the call, he did not intend to walk to the truck







16 comments:

  1. Great analysis...btw, i posted this link to justicequest.net.

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  2. I can explain how he "knows" the name of Twin Trees Lane during the re-enactment the next afternoon. He doesn't! He reads it right off of the street sign at RVC and TTL. If you notice he says it when the squad car is backing out of the clubhouse parking lot. They are approaching the street sign there on that corner. George just looks up and reads it out loud. He probably still does not know what it is.

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  3. The "circling" did not have to happen.
    The "You got a f**king problem Homie?" did not have to happen.
    The "my head felt like it was gonna explode" did not have to happen.
    The "he emerged from the darkness" did not have to happen.
    The "I had actually forgotten I had my weapon on me" did not have to happen.

    These were all explanations given AFTER THE FACT by someone who wanted to justify something he had done that he suddenly realized he could be held accountable for. These self-serving false statements are sometimes called "lies" and they are sometimes called "some of the most ridiculous clap-trap you could possibly invent" and they are sometimes called "inconsistent with the physical evidence" and they are sometimes called "Zimmermanisms."

    Here are the things you do NOT hear on the non-emergency call (and by the way, George probably did not expect that his call to the non-emergency number would be recorded, and at the time of his "re-enactment" he might not have realized that there was an independent record of what had taken place before the murder):

    You do not hear:

    "Hold on a minute; I forgot the name of the street, I'll get out and find it for you."

    You do not hear: "Shit he ran and disappeared down that area that I don't know the name of -- give me a minute and I'll find out for you."

    You do not hear: "Don't try to find me at my truck; I'm already out of my truck trying to search for a street sign."

    You do not hear: "If you don't get here really fast, this suspect is going to get away like all the other suspects I have been unable to apprehend."

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  4. Zimmerman says he called after parking at the clubhouse, but I don't think it's ever been made clear at exactly what time he dialed, and exactly how long after that he hears Sean say "Sanford Police Department, this line is being recorded, this is Sean."

    I'm assuming that when we first hear Sean's voice it's 7:09:34 PM, but I don't know enough about how they keep their records down there to be absolutely certain.

    Could it be that by the time the call actually got through to dispatch he had already moved the Honda to somewhere pointing in some direction on TTL?

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  5. Unitron,

    In the walk through, Zimmerman says that he was speaking to the dispatcher when he was parked at the clubhouse. He also says that Martin passed him there.
    Even though he does not mention Martin passing him there, he says that the dispatcher was asking him about where Martin went. He describes this as happening as he was backing out from the clubhouse parking spot.

    His story simply does not stand up against his own words in the recording of the call.


    If it does not fit the call, it's fantasy.

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  6. The timeline in the recording of the call is an absolute. If something can stand up against that timeline, then it is nonsense.


    Martin approaching and circling the truck
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    I think you mean If something can NOT stand up.
    Martin approaching.... is a heading to make it easier to find.

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  7. Right Anon. It's a NOT.
    I'm just on my way back from a field trip to Zero Net Land. Found all sorts of stuff to change in my cached copy, including that.
    Will be able to do a revamp when I get back in a few days

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  8. I put my precedent comment in the wrong section. It's at 2:27 of your second video that GZ is saying "about several hundreds of times parked right there". I am not sure what he exactly meant.

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  9. The circling is the major distortion between the register call and the re-eneactment. As you pointed it looks only possible near the Club House. The interview with Serino and Singleton is quite frustrating. They should asked GZ to precise where both were at multiple moments during GZ's call.

    In the re-eneactment, it looks he said "he ran" at the T intersection. It was dark, i first thought that he coudln't see nothing. But maybe if there was some lightning all the way from the street south and if someone was standing on the sidewalk he would be visible.

    It is unfortunate that there no night pictures of the area beside the limited view of those from the investigation.

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  10. Short comment about the circling. If GZ is lying somehow about it i don't get why. It doesn't help him. This indicates me that a "kind of circling" may happened and more probable near the Club House. How can GZ be so mixed up is beyond my comprehension.

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  11. @59 sec. In video part 1, GZ who has a "bad memory" tells Serino the last 4 digits of his case number. Serino is recording " todays's date is 2/27..time is 17:52 which is 5:52, following is for case number xxxxxx " Serino pauses trying to remember last 4 digits to case file number and always helpful GZ jumps in with them ....so he "quite honestly Det. I have a bad memory ( in response to NE call being played back) actually can remember his case file number.

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  12. Can anyone tell me what the point of a walk through is, if not to get as accurate an estimate of the timeline of events as possible?

    Serino should have been sat beside Z with a map, asking Z where he and TM were in relation to the map at different points during the NEN call, to pin his story down for future reference.

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  13. The Walk-Trough was intended to put some geography on Zimmerman's account of the night.
    I definitely was not set up as a reconstruction.

    I think it was a golden opportunity missed.
    I would dearly love to see Zimmerman doing that in synch with the NEN call recording.
    It would destroy a lot of his story.

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  14. Your 2 minutes, 30 seconds theory is horse 5#!+. That is the amount of time between the end of the NEN call and the first 911 call. Do you suppose someone called 911 as soon as GZ and TM met at (or very near) the sidewalk T intersection? I doubt it happened until a minute, or nearly a minute into the fight, and possibly longer than a minute. After all, the screams didn't start with the first punch, but not until TM was pounding GZ's head into the pavement. What is undoubted is that TM had at least 2 min., 30 seconds to run 70 yards.

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  15. Your comment is another example of 'non-joined-up' thinking.
    Over and over, I see people pick on some point and set out to refute it.
    Their problem is that they focus on a single aspect and take no account of the implications of their conclusion.

    Events are not a collection of independent time snap-shots.

    The 2 minutes 30 seconds from end of NEN to first 911 connecting is a given. It is not a theory, or somebody's memory. It was logged automatically by the computer system monitoring the calls.

    Let's say that #Zimmerman was telling the truth about walking for his truck immediately he completed the NEN call.
    Let's ignore that although he claims in the Walk-Through that it ended with an agreement to meet at the truck, the reality of the NEN recording is that he actually changed from that at the last moment to the patrol calling him to find out where he would be at.
    Let's ignore that he has demonstrated an inability to tell anybody where he is at - and says he had gone to RVC to get a house number. Where he says he was standing on RVC at the end of the NEN he can see RVC house numbers.

    But... let's take him at his word. He ends NEN and starts walking.
    At an easy walking pace (and demonstrated in the Walk-Through video) he's past the T and at the 'attack' point a maximum of 30 seconds later.
    So he's attacked 2 minutes before the first 911 connects.
    The shot is heard 42 seconds into that call.

    That's 2 minutes 42 seconds from him being attacked/accosted to him firing the shot.
    Do you disagree?

    Given Zimmerman's minor injuries - a bruised nose and two minor cuts that needed no more attention than washing - it does not seem reasonable that Martin was punching and pounding Zimmerman for all that time as Zimmerman claims.

    He says the encounter was within feet of W11's back porch. The porch door was open. W11 and partner were watching TV. Eventually they hear sounds of a loud argument and mute the TV.
    You think that Zimmerman and Martin had a quiet conversation for about 1 minute or more before raising their voices?

    Zimmerman reports just a very brief exchange.
    "Got a prob?" - "No" - "Now you do" - POW!
    Would that take a minute or more? Even if they spoke v.e.r.y slowly, and with pauses for reflection in beween sentences?

    Whatever Zimmerman was doing after he ended the NEN, it wasn't walking for his truck by the direct route.

    If he actually went to RVC to get a house nember, then he was standing at the only position that he would be able to describe to the incoming patrol when they rang him.
    Why did he not give the dispatcher a house number when he was standing looking at one? He says that was the entire reason for him to leave his truck and walk into that dark area.

    Why did he change from a meet at the mailboxes to one of the patrol ringing him to find out where he was at - and good luck with anyone trying to get Zimmerman to tell them where he is at if he's not on RVC!

    But wait!
    The way the NEN ended with that sudden change indicates that he noticed something. How about he decided to check out the area and then go back to his truck?
    See? He's going back to his truck, but taking the scenic route.





    Add this:
    W11 reports hearing one vioce saying "What you doing ...."
    DD reports hearing "What are you doing around here" in the seconds before the call disconnects.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GeC1aZdb3o


    The "horse 5#!+" is Zimmerman's account of what happened.
    To his supporters, his story sounds plausible. They respond emotionally and without having the wit or the will to analyse the story against known facts - like the 2 minute 30 second gap.



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