The Call

This page has a recording of the Non-Emergency (not actually a 911) call that Zimmerman made on the night. It also has a full transcript with notes.
For anyone trying to understand what happened, it is vital to listen to the actual call and not depend solely on a written transcript. It is only 4 minutes long, and well worth the investment of time.

There are two very important things about the call.
  1. It describes the events as Zimmerman sees them at the time - before a need to describe them differently arose. It gives a clear and accurate sequence of events, background sounds, voice tones, breathing that are timed. It is what happened, and nothing that Zimmerman says afterwards can change this.
  2. The call started at 19:09:34.
    This is important because it places the events described precisely in relation to other evidence that can be similarly time-stamped. Uppermost in these is the timing of the first 911 call in relation to Zimmerman's call ending.
    Note that some are under the entirely mistaken impression that the call started at 19:11:12.
    Even the Sanford PD timeline made that mistake, resulting in them not questiong Zimmerman closely enough on what happened. The source of this error is explained at the bottom of this page. The difference to the timeline was to shorten the gap between the NEN ending and the first 911 being picked up 1 minute 38 seconds.

    For people without the patience to read right down, here is the quick story:
    19:11:12 is the time that the dispatcher made the first entry summarising what Zimmerman told him.
    The summary entry includes "Late teens", but the dispatcher doesn't hear this until 1 minute 14 seconds into the call. In short, a start time of 19:11:12 is impossible. The actual start time of 19:09:34.is in the Event Report (below).

    The call began at the "Connection Time" in the event log - 19:09:34
    This means that there is 2 minute 30+ second gap between the call ending and the first 911 being picked up. That 911 had been dialled 11 seconds earlier.
    Zimmerman always claimed that he headed straight for his truck when the call ended.
    The walk to where he said he was attacked would have taken him 20 seconds.
A gap of over 2 minutes was never investigated properly by Sanford PD because they were working from the wrong timestamp. They were erroneously seeing the any gap situation as one of Zimmerman taking about 40 seconds to do a walk that would take 20 at a steady pace. That wasn't felt to be significant.
Any gap has always been denied by Zimmerman's accounts. He always insisted that he did not linger in that dark area.
See the video of the Walk Through (linked in left margin) he did with police the next morning. He says he started back for his truck as soon as the call was over. It takes him just over 20 seconds to get to the spot where he says he was attacked. He would therefore then have 2 minutes and 10 seconds in that spot before the first 911 call connects. If you think this is reasonable, you are trying too hard.

At the trial Mark O'Mara admitted the gap, but offered a theory that Zimmerman might have been "looking around" during those missing minutes.
But:
a) Zimmerman has always denied doing such a thing
b) It was dark, cold and rainy. He had already been out of his safe warm truck for some minutes. This was no time for sight-seeing.
The conclusion is obvious and inescapable. Zimmerman went looking for Martin. You will hear him at the very end of the recorded NEN call, suddenly changing from an agreed meeting with the cops at the mailboxes to being 'somewhere' so the cops will have to call him to find out where he is at.

Add to that the fact that the correct timelines shows that the call between Martin and Jeantal dropped after the fight had begun. This supports her story of what she heard. If Martin attacked Zimmerman, then he must have done so during the call. This isn't opinion or theory. This is objective fact proved by automatically logged call information.

Why could the prosecution not have outlined this clearly to the jury?
Because they had a buffoon concentrating on trying to prove a crazy racist murder (mostly through the medium of shouting) - when they should have had somebody with a clue proving a manslaughter - which based on evidence and common sense is what I believe actually took place.

Listen to the call.
Have a look at the other pages in this blog (linked in the left-margin).

I would commend the Hannity Interview page to you in particular.  It should have you thinking "What exactly is going on there?"




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There are a number of sites hosting a sound file. Some have apparently been edited or ‘enhanced’.
Here is one that seems to be an original copy of Zimmerman's call.
The link opens in a new tab, so you can pause/restart start it while reading through the analysis.
Here it is embedded in this page if you prefer to listen that way.

Note: This below is a full transcript of the recording. I have added timestamps and comments within the call that are helpful in determining movements or contain phrases that seem significant.


0:00 Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department.
Zimmerman: Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. 0:42 Zimmerman: He's here now, he was just staring.
Dispatcher: OK, he's just walking around the area…
Zimmerman: looking at all the houses.
Dispatcher: OK…
Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.
Dispatcher:  OK-you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?
Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse…
Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse, do you know what the-he's near the clubhouse right now?
0:47 Zimmerman: Now he’s just staring at me.
0:55 Dispatcher: “He’s near the clubhouse?
Zimmerman:”Yeah. Now he’s coming towards me”.

Dispatcher: OK.
Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got button on his shirt, late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens. Ok.
((As Martin nears him, Zimmerman is able to add detail to the initial description. Now he can see that he’s a black male (as opposed to “looks” black), a button on his shirt, late teens” This has to be the first time that Zimmerman is seeing him up close – or at least up close with sufficient time to note the detail.))

Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.
((Martin is still approaching. Probably getting very close. By the “his deal is”, Zimmerman’s voice has changed from a relatively dispassionate recounting to a concerned note.
Dispatchers are trained to calm callers and coach them into being observers. His question is as much to calm Zimmerman as it is to get him to describe what he is seeing.))

Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, ok?
Zimmerman: (unclear- When can?)  you can get an officer over here.
(( He had broken in over the dispatcher's words to say this - at “just”.
The Dispatcher has to repeat the calming/coaching as Zimmerman has not done as he was asked. ))
Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.

1:36 Zimmerman now seems to be calmer. “OK”
(( We hear rustling sounds start up. This would be Zimmerman turning in his seat to watch Martin walking past ))

A short aside:
Any of you who already have some details of Zimmerman's later statements will realise that there is something very significant missing here.
In his later written statemment, the Walk-Through and interviews (apart from Hannity), Zimmerman will claim that Martin circled his truck in a threatening manner at that moment.
Listen to that section of the NEN. He had been asked to report on what the guy was doing. What's missing?

1:37 Zimmerman: These **sholes, they always get away.  
1:46 (( The rustling sounds stop. ))
1:47 Zimmerman: Yep. When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse.
Dispatcher: So it's on the left hand side from the clubhouse?
Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left.    
(( Zimmerman is making a big mess of this, and the frustration in his voice is very evident. This is suddenly interrupted: ))
2:07 Zimmerman “Sh**. He’s running”.
((You can hear Zimmerman start to move to get out of the truck immediately on saying "He's running."))
2:09 ((A mechanical sound. Maybe the door latch. Maybe releasing seat belt. ))
Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?
2:10 ((Tone, which seems to be the usual warning chirp when a door opens))
Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.
2:14 Sound like the door slamming shut
Dispatcher: OK. Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
2:15 Sound that could be door lock operating or him brushing against the truck
Zimmerman: The back entrance
2:20 We hear a pattern of regular rustling/wind noises starting
2:22 Zimmerman: F***ing ****s
(( There have been various interpretation of what he said. I hear "Goons" - which is the name by which local gangs were known. Zimmerman claimed later that it was "Punks". Others have suggested words ranging from "Cold" to racially-oriented. To me the sound combined with the circumstances would favour "Goons", with 'g' bringing out the 'u' sound. Maybe Zimmerman pronounces 'punks' as 'poonks'. ))
2:23 Dispatcher: Are you following him?  
(( Maybe the Dispatcher interprets the background noises as Zimmerman running.))
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
2:28 Zimmerman: Ok.
2:34 Dispatcher: Alright sir what is your name?
Zimmerman: George…He ran.
2:42 ((The background wind/movement noises die down))
Dispatcher: Alright George what's your last name?    
(( A clicking or knocking sound can be heard here ))
Zimmerman: Zimmerman
Dispatcher: And George what's the phone number you're calling from?    
(( Clicking or knocking sound is heard again ))
Zimmerman: [phone number removed]
2:54 Dispatcher: Alright George we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:Yeah.
Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?  
(( For the remainder of the recording, Zimmerman sounds distracted. The knocking sound occurs several times during the final exchange with the dispatcher ))
Zimmerman: Um, if they come in through the, uh, (knocking sound) gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, (knocking sound) straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, you'll see my truck... [unintelligible,as the Dispatcher breaks in - but it could be a description ... (Zimmerman had a silver Honda Ridgeline)  
(( It could be that the Dispatcher has become impatient with Zimmerman's directions. Now he wants a simple answer.))
3:18 Dispatcher: OK What address are you parked in front of?
Zimmerman: I don't know, it's a cut through so I don't know the address.
Dispatcher: Okay do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home it's [house number removed], (knocking sound)  
3:35 Oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.    
(( Zimmerman obviously realises that the place is so dark that Martin could be unseen and within earshot. This could be bad for Zimmerman if the neighbourhood punks know his home address. It could also be bad for zimmerman if the person who he now realises could be within feet of him in the dark had *actually* threatened him by circling his truck with hand in waistband and confrontational body language, etc.  Any reasonable or prudent person would on that realisation have immediately made straight back for the safety of the truck.))
3:39 Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then? Zimmerman: Yeah that's fine.
Dispatcher: Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you when they're out there, okay?      
(( This is sensible. It is a clear meeting point. The Dispatcher does not know that Zimmerman has gone into the dark after Martin. Zimmerman, given that he has been aware that Martin could be so close as to overhear his home address, would be well advised to get out of there ASAP. ))
3:48 Zimmerman: Actually could you have them, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?      
(( This is very  remarkable. At the last minute, Zimmerman has decided not to go back to his truck in Twin Trees. He's going to be somewhere unknown. Whatever he intends to do, it has come to him suddenly, as he broke in over the last words of the Dispatcher.  ))
Dispatcher: Okay, yeah that's no problem. 
Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?
Dispatcher: Yeah I got it [phone number removed]
Zimmerman: Yeah you got it.
Dispatcher: Okay no problem, I'll let them know to call you when you're in the area.
Zimmerman: Thanks. Dispatcher: You're welcome.
4:06 Click and the call ends.


But here's the thing....
It will be another 2.5 minutes before the first 911 (from Lauer) connects.
Zimmerman did a Walk-Through with SPD on the ground on the following day. (Linked in the left margin of this page). He says that he finished the call while standing on Retreat View circle - where he says he went to get a house number - and started back immediately for the truck. In all interviews he states he did not linger in the area. In the Walk-Through, it took him 20 seconds to walk to the point at which he says he was attacked.


The call Event Report

This is an image of the Event Report related to Zimmerman's call
Note the "Connection:" timestamp at the top - 19:09:34 Underneath that is the "Created:" timestamp - 19:11:12 The Connection timestamp is automatically created when the call connects. The Created timestamp is the time at which the operator has typed in details such address and caller name - and the first description of what the call is about. Then presses 'Enter'. The list of entries are sequenced from bottom up. The earliest entry is timed 19:11:12. This is the same that the "Created:" time. It contains a summary of the information that Zimmerman gave. The confirmation of "1111" and Clubhouse does not happen until 58 seconds into the call. Clearly, the call did not start at 'Created:' time  - unless the operator was a gifted psychic. The dispatcher hears "Late Teens" 1 minute 14 seconds into the call. He doen't just add this as a note. He clearly takes all he has heard to data and summarises into a single first entry  1017 AREA FOR BM LATE TEENS LSW DARK GRAY HOODIE JEANS OR SWEATPANTS WALKING AROUND AREA // COMPL CONCERNED REF RECENT S21S By the time he has all that typed in and pressed enter, it's 19:11:12 Incredibly, there are people who insist that this is the time the call started. But this would mean that there is never a need for anyone to ring the police and describe what is going on. The psychic dispatcher already knows all about it! Just to confirm that: ... note the entry at 19:11:59 "SUBJ NOW RUNNING TOWARDS BACK ENTRANCE OF COMPLEX" This is 2:25 into the call from a start time of 19:09:34 Check the call transcript above
2:14 Sound like the door slamming shut Dispatcher: OK. Which entrance is that that he's heading towards? 2:15 Sound that could be door lock operating or him brushing against the truck Zimmerman: The back entrance
The operator has to hear that, and while still talking with Zimmerman, has to type the entry. He's got that completed and in at 2:25 into the event log - 10 seconds after Zimmerman began to say "The back entrance" You can do the same exercise for Event Log timestamps v. the elapsed time in the call recording for the entries at 19:13:12 - which is the operator recording an agreement for Zimmerman to meet the patrol at the mailboxes 19:13:41 - which is the operator recording Zimmerman's last-minute decision to be somewhere as yet unknown and have the patrol call him. This is 4:07 after the Connection time - which right for the call just ending Added note: I had timed the call as being 4 minutes 7 seconds. When added to the start time, this gives an end time of 19:13:41 By freakish coincidence, this happens to be the timestamp on the last entry in the log.That entry is just recording Zimmerman's last-second change from a meet at the mailboxes to the patrol ringing him to find out where he will be. Maybe I should change my duation timing by a couple of seconds to avoid confusion. Please note that the End Time I am using is Start Time + Duration. It is not taken from the last log entry. This might seem all a bit tedious, but it is important to make the point about the actual call time. Some people will be in so much denial about the implications of this that the actual time has to put up in neon lights - with fireworks in the background.

COMMENTS:

Comments are open on all pages. If you wish to comment, please keep it strictly to the topic of the page. If you have an alternative take on the content, please try to support this with some reference to a report that is as close to first-hand as possible or is an interpretation of the recording of the call.


23 comments:

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  2. Michi's comment is moved to the Speculation page.
    I hope you don't mind Michi.

    The purpose of this page is to collect information from the call recording.
    Information built up in this page would be used as a basis for something in another page.

    For example, someone might have a different take on the background sounds or on the speeds at which either might have been moving.
    Someone might pick up something new/different in the sounds or the voice.

    It's possible that someone might consider that they hear the sound of the truck being taken out of park mode, or moving at a specific minute:second within the recording.
    That would lead to comments and possible updates in the Maps page.

    They might hear some sounds near the end of the tape that indicate where exactly Zimmerman might be or what he is doing.
    That would lead to comments in the 'The Ground'.

    I know this means a bit of trouble, but it does prevent the blog as a whole spiralling off into a mess.

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  3. Sling, can you listen carefully to the talk between 3.18 and 3.24 and tell me if you hear, right after "you'll [or "they'll"] see my truck," George say the words, "My keys are in the truck"?

    Leatherman says George said "My keys are in the truck" and I kind of hear it but not very clearly. Can you hear that part?

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    1. Those keys were probably in the ignition while George watched Trayvon. It doesn't seem he pulled them out before he headed out the door....

      Another think is his coat. Was he wearing that bulky coat while he sat in the truck cab? Was the coat laying on the passenger seat? Did he grab it on his way out the door?

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    2. Noon, what you heard was Zimmerman knocking on someone's door in the are and ask them to "Watch my truck." If you listen to it closely, you can hear it. Who's house did Zimmerman go to? Who did he ask to watch his truck? Where is this witness? Why has he never been identified? Why a has Zimmerman never been asked about who this person was? Coverup , yes it was.

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  4. I honestly cant's say what it is. I had assumed it was some description of the truck. For me that's pure guesswork.
    I don't have any facility for clever analysis of audio and analysis of Zimmerman's speech patterns. I'll have to leave that to the experts.

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  5. Hello Sling. We discussed this already in the section infographic and i wrote GZ could have been on RVC as soon than 19:12:10. Actually i think that when GZ said "He ran" this was the exact time (19:12:12) he could first see down RVC. It makes no sens for him to say that before because the back alley was dark. He couldn't tell before RVC.

    That make a run of about 18 secs for him. To be noticed, the supposedly wind in the phone finished few seconds later at the same time than the click-click (some say from the gun). No wind after that!

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  6. 18 secs for about 80 meters is a smooth running, very possible.

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  7. I am working on a page that will take Zimmerman at his word..
    - as walking from the truck to RVC.
    - being jumped just beyond the T-junction as he was walking directly from RVC back to his truck.

    There are timings that can not be got around.
    Those timings say something about where Martin must have been in the interim to sensibly be in a position to make an attack in those circumstances.

    I'll probably have time to set it up over the weekend.


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  9. believe GZ was at RVC at 19:12:12 and never went back. He spent the next 3-4 minutes searching along RVC. This even before his call finished.

    But i would like your appreciation of a comment he made on the re-eneactment when he was on RVC just before coming back. He said that he had parked there (on TTL) hundreds of times before. At least this is what i am understanding. Two things from that. It makes even more difficult to believe GZ forgot the name of the street and why was he parking there so many times? Is there any chance GZ knew w6? I never read any comment about that.

    Also in the re-eneactment, when they arrive on TTL, we can see a white truck parked in front of w6 house and two men around. My impression is they are watching the process. Who were they?

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  10. Listening to the call, where - before he gets out to follow - he is attempting to give directions to the truck. I was struck by the fact that he didn't simply mention Twin Trees. It is possible that he could not remember. He does have a condition. I am inclined to put it down to that rather than conspiracy.

    In what video and what time does he talk of parking there before? I don't recall that.
    He did talk about walking his dog in the dog-walk area in one interview. I don't have a note of which one.

    Zimmerman's father and Mark Osterman were present at the Walk Through
    More on Osterman: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/13/v-fullstory/2893981/air-marshal-took-zimmerman-in.html

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  11. malisha says -
    Sling, can you listen carefully to the talk between 3.18 and 3.24 and tell me if you hear, right after "you'll [or "they'll"] see my truck," George say the words, "My keys are in the truck"?

    Whatever he says, it is obviously not intended for the dispatcher's ears, as every other comment he makes is at a volume level loud enough to be heard clearly, even if the actual words aren't perfectly clear.

    IF he had said it to the dispatcher, what possible use was that information to the situation he was in? Was the dispatcher supposed to pass that message on to the police heading to the scene?

    It sounds more like Z is speaking to someone else, than that he was speaking to the dispatcher and just happened to not be speaking into the phone at that one specific point.

    I've tried to view Z as just a well-intentioned guy who by his own failings got in above his head when trying to make a citizens arrest, but the more I've explored this incident, the more I'm becoming convinced he wasn't acting alone that night and that he has been undercharged, not overcharged.

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    1. It sounded like an offhand statement made to himself. The dispatcher talks over him so I can't separate the two speakers... I thought at one point it was "...by my truck.." but because both voices meld, it's hard to say.

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    2. He asked someone to watch his truck. Listen again. Please go back and listen to the 911 call from Zimmerman. There is a segment there where you can hear Zimmerman knocking on someone's door and then asking that person to, " Watch my truck." He doesn't ask this person to watch his truck, he does not introduce himself as neighborhood watch. Whoever this person was, Zimmerman knew them. Who was this person? Why wasn't this person ever located or questioned. This entire case was a coverup. The DOJ have to step in. Please, I implore you to listen closely to the tape. It's not easy to hear but it is clear. I will post the exact times when you hear the knocks and zimmerman's voice tomorrow. I 1st heard the tape in an article where zimmerman was allegedly suing NBC about changing something in the 911 tape. YOU HAVE TO HEAR THIS EXERPT!

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  12. I never picked up my own impression that Zimmerman was speaking to another person during the NEN call.
    I hear him saying that the patrol will see his truck, but I don't hear "keys".
    I leave that to someone with better sound analysis tech.

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  13. The bigoted press keeps playing over and over "You don't have to do that" but the dispatcher was implicitly telling him to follow and report when the dispatcher said "let me know if this guy does anything else. "

    The dispatcher also said "He's running? Which way is he running?"

    And clearly Zimmerman only was getting out to get answer the question - and the one right after about which way Trayvon was running.

    I was in fear when some freak seemed to be stalking me (years ago when I was a teen) when I was down the street from my house. Right after the guy passed me he turned. I ran - TO MY HOUSE...Not doubling back behind the guy.

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  14. Context is vital to understanding written words.

    The context of "Let me know if this guy does anything else." is very clear. Listen to the NEN.


    What’s happenening here?
    Zimmerman sounds concerned.
    “Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he’s coming to check me out, he’s got something in his hands, I don’t know what his deal is.”
    Dispatcher has got that. This sounds like trouble on the way. “Just let me know if he does anything, ok?” Keep me updated. This could be an attack.

    What you have there is actually one occasion where the dispatcher is asking Zimmerman to tell him what the subject is doing right now as he approaches – with his hand in his waistband and something in hand. It’s really very simple.
    Technically – working from the transcript alone and ignoring the timing – one could argue for two completely separate instructions.
    The dispatcher has said much the same thing twice in quick sucession – and it’s about the potential attack. He repeated *because* instead of telling him what the guy was doing, Zimmerman has interrupted the (first) request and is freaking out and asking about when an officer will arrive.

    And *still* Zimmerman has not told the dispatcher what Martin is doing.
    He says later that Martin circled the truck, but he does not say this to the dispatcher.
    Martin is walking away, but Zimmerman still does not report this.
    Instead he comments on people always getting away, and starts an attempt at directions to his location. The dispatcher, without being explicitly told, seems to understand that any immediate possibility of an incident is over. He doesn’t press Zimmerman for a report on what the subject is doing.

    The “running” is the first report of what Martin is doing. It comes some 30 seconds after Zimmerman seems calmer. We can take it as a real-time report as he breaks off from giving directions.


    Then we (and the dispatcher) hear Zimmerman get out.
    Background noises indicate that Zimmerman is moving – and not slowly. He also swears.
    “Are you following him”
    “Yeah”
    “We don’t need you to do that.”

    What is “ambiguous” about “We don’t need you to do that.”?

    Have you read the written statement that Zimmerman wrote in his own fair hand some hours later?
    “The dispatch told me not to follow the suspect & that an officer was in route”.
    .

    Now that the trial is in progress, check the dispatcher's evidence regarding the "We don't need you to do that".

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    Noffke testified on the first day of the jury trial that it is dispatchers’ policy not to give orders to callers. “We’re directly liable if we give a direct order,” he explained. “We always try to give general basic …. not commands, just suggestions.” So, “We don’t need you to do that” is different than a more direct “Don’t do that.”

    Under cross-examination, Noffke added more context to his “suggestion” when asked whether his requests for updates on what Martin was doing encouraged Zimmerman to follow the unarmed 17-year-old. “It’s best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation,” Noffke said.

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    "We don't need you to do that" is the closest thing to "Don't follow" that the rules allow Noffke to say.
    He actually means "Do not follow".
    Neighborhood Watch advice to volunteers (such as Zimmerman) is to "Call from the safety of your home or vehicle".

    To quote Noofke again "It’s best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation".

    Zimmerman did the polar opposite, he got out and kept going towards the dark corner around which Martin had disappeared.
    He ignored NW and Noffke advice. He was reckless.

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  15. GZ's remark, "my keys are in the ignition" is bothering me, because his car keys were found at the scene at the top of the 'T'. While it's possible that he just said this for the benefit of the NEN dispatcher as proof he intended to return to his truck, I have to wonder if he really did leave his keys in the truck. If so, he may have changed direction during the last part of the call to go back for them. Since we don't hear the car door a second time on the recording, he couldn't have retrieved the keys until after he hung up. GZ may have grabbed the extra flashlight at this point as well. While this side trip would account for some of the unaccounted for time after the NEN call, it still leaves GZ plenty of time to return to the dog walk, perhaps via TTL between the townhouses. His reason for leaving this side trip out of his initial and subsequent accounts is obvious. If he actually returned to his truck after the call, his decision to pursue the youth on foot (we know he ended up at the dog walk with his keys) after retrieving the keys was a conscious choice. He would not want police, etc. to know this.

    Anyway, GZs remark about the keys was something the detectives should have questioned IMO. It's a little thing, but it might have been hard for GZ to come up with a lie about how the keys migrated from the truck to the 'T'.

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  16. I have to say that I don't hear anything about keys in the ignition.
    What I hear is "You'll see my truck".
    He was attempting to give directions at the time.

    Zimmerman: Um, if they come in through the, uh, (knocking sound) gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, (knocking sound) straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, you'll see my truck... [unintelligible,as the Dispatcher breaks in - but it could be a description ... (Zimmerman had a silver Honda Ridgeline)

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    1. Please go back and listen to the 911 call from Zimmerman. There is a segment there where you can hear Zimmerman knocking on someone's door and then asking that person to, " Watch my truck." He doesn't ask this person to watch his truck, he does not introduce himself as neighborhood watch. Whoever this person was, Zimmerman knew them. Who was this person? Why wasn't this person ever located or questioned. This entire case was a coverup. The DOJ have to step in. Please, I implore you to listen closely to the tape. It's not easy to hear but it is clear. I will post the exact times when you hear the knocks and zimmerman's voice tomorrow. I 1st heard the tape in an article where zimmerman was allegedly suing NBC about changing something in the 911 tape. YOU HAVE TO HEAR THIS EXERPT!

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  17. "It's a Honda Ridgeline", mumbled, could sound similar to "the keys are in the ignition", which appears in some transcriptions of the NEN call that I've come across.

    If that is what GZ said in that unintelligible bit, my best guess would be that it was a lie for the benefit of the NEN dispatcher, who had just corrected him for 'following'. ("See, I'm planning to return directly to my vehicle.")

    It's also possible he did go back to the truck briefly for the keys, but chose not to get in and drive to the mailboxes or the back exit and instead decided to pursue TM on foot. When asked by Doris Singleton whether he had taken his keys after he got out of his truck (to 'go in the same direction' as TM), GM said he'd put them in his pocket... This makes sense since we know they ended up near the 'T', but I have to wonder whether she might have interpreted that unintelligible bit the same way -- keys-in-ignition -- and missed an opportunity to catch him in a lie to NEN.

    On the call audio you can hear the door chimes. I was curious if the chiming signals the keys being left in the ignition, or for some other reason, such as an open window, or just for the heck of it. I know zilch about cars. I'm a non driver.

    I can relate to Trayvon being followed. I was walking out one night a number of years ago to pick up my daughter from grade 8 prom, when a man in a sports car followed me. He made U-turns to cut me off. It was a terrifying 5+ minutes on a dark, deserted road. Like TM, even though it was closer, I didn't go home. I didn't want to lead him to my 3, 5 and 12-year-old... I didn't knock on anyone's door either. The driver sped away once I reached the safety of the busy school parking lot. The sports car had tinted windows, but in spite of being terrorized (and having bad vision) I was able to see that he was Caucasian and bald, wearing black clothing. So I do believe that TM would have been able to see his pursuer in the truck and recognize him again on foot on the dog path. ...He must have been very afraid then.

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  18. Please go back and listen to the 911 call from Zimmerman. There is a segment there where you can hear Zimmerman knocking on someone's door and then asking that person to, " Watch my truck." He doesn't ask this person to watch his truck, he does not introduce himself as neighborhood watch. Whoever this person was, Zimmerman knew them. Who was this person? Why wasn't this person ever located or questioned. This entire case was a coverup. The DOJ have to step in. Please, I implore you to listen closely to the tape. It's not easy to hear but it is clear. I will post the exact times when you hear the knocks and zimmerman's voice tomorrow. I 1st heard the tape in an article where zimmerman was allegedly suing NBC about changing something in the 911 tape. YOU HAVE TO HEAR THIS EXERPT!

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