This is a very real and serious problem for the defenceIt will be very interesting to see how both sides use/explain the following in their closings:
Update: In his closing arguments, Mark O'Mara felt he had to offer some explanation for why Zimmerman had lingered in that dark area for 2 minutes+ after the NEN ended. Zimmerman had always denied that he delayed at all - that he headed straight back for his truck. The walk from where he says he ended the call on Retreat Vieew Circle to where he says he was attacked would have taken him only 20 seconds.
O'Mara offered a theory that Zimmerman might have been "looking around" . Yes. Looking around in the dark, cold and rain.....for..... eh..... something or other.
The defence timeline is online at http://gzdocs.com/documents/opening_graphics/timeline.jpg
*The times are interesting because they are what the defence accepts as fact.*
Three key times:7:13:40 GZ call ends (NEN call)
7:15:43 W8 call to TM ends
7:16:11 Witness 11 911 call (first to call) (Lauer)
The gap between W8 call ending and the 911 call connecting is 28 seconds.
That 28 seconds includes:
- Any delay between the call ending and the encounter beginning
- A delay until the noises become loud enough for Lauer and partner to hear them over their TV
- A delay while they mute their TV and listen
- A delay while they decide that the noises indicate that a 911 is appropriate
- A delay as she gets the phone and dials 911
- A delay until the 911 dispatcher picks up the call.
This last delay was 11 seconds. The Event Report for Laeur’s 911 call indicates that it began ringing at 7:16:00 and was picked up at 7:16:11
(This is explained at the bottom of this page)
The gap from W8’s call ending to Laeur completing the dialling was therefore just 17 seconds.
Does this 17 second gap not indicate that the end of W8’s call and the encounter would have to be near-simultaneous? This would support W8’s account.
If we disregard W8’s account of the content of that call, would not Martin have terminated the call well in advance of any deliberate attack on Zimmerman?
Would Martin have gone to attack and beat up this stranger with his phone in his hand?
He would have no idea of how capable this person was. He’s NOT going to go in to attack an unknown opponent with a phone in his hand.
17 seconds is simply not enough time for him to end the call - pocket the phone - approach Zimmerman - start the fight - get overheard by Laeur – Laeur muting TV – Laeur listening and deciding to dial 911 – Laeur dialling.
But whoa! It gets worse for the defenceLaeur's evidence was that there was a delay in dialling 911 - problems with phones. They think the delay in dialling was maybe up to 30 seconds.
This would mean that the call dropped up to 13 seconds after the fight was noticed.
Do we really beleve that Martin went in to attack an unkown opponent while still on a phone call?
Martin's phone was found in the grass 50 feet South of the T.
Does this not all confirm W8's account of how it started?
It gets even worse for the defenceThe gap between the NEN ending and the 911 connecting is 2 minutes and 31 seconds.
The gap between the NEN ending and Lauer completing the dialling is 2 minutes and 20 seconds.
The gap between the NEN ending and W8’s call ending is 1 minute and 30 seconds.
In the Walk Through, Zimmerman states that he headed back to his truck immediately on ending the NEN. He says that he was standing on Retreat View Circle when the call ended.
In the Walk Through, he takes about 20 seconds to get from there to the point at which he says he was attacked.
What he would have to explain is how it took him 1 minute and 30 seconds to cover a walk that took him 20 seconds in the Walk Through.
What was he doing for 1 minute and 30 seconds between the NEN ending and the encounter beginning?
This walk from RVC might hot have happened in any case. We only have Zimmerman’s word that he actually went there. He could have been anywhere before he ended up outside John Good’s porch.
How can the defence explain this time immediately after the NEN?
MOM/West might advance a theory that Zimmerman hung around on RVC for over a minute before deciding to walk back to his truck.
The problem is that Zimmerman would have to go on the stand to confirm this theory – and to correct his recorded evidence that he had started back for his truck immediately.
MOM/West might suggest that he got fed up of waiting around for the cops. It was after all dark, cold and wet out there.
Apart from this being contradicted by Zimmerman's own 'evidence' the problems with that are
- He had already been out of his warm dry truck and in the dark, cold and rain for 1 minute 52 seconds (since 7:11:48) The “suspect” has long gone. “He ran”
- He had agreed to meet the cops at the mailboxes (just beyond his truck) – but changed at the last moment to a plan that they would call him to ask him where he was at. He had suddenly decided to stay out in the dark, cold and rain for some reason.
- If his intention was to wait where he says he was - on RVC, why did he not give the house number to the dispatcher at that stage?
- If he did become frustrated by an additional 1 minute in the dark, cold and rain – and then decided to abandon the meeting at RVC, this should have been a memorable event.
It would be memorable because of the frustration. It would be memorable because he would have been aware that once he left RVC, he would not be able to give directions to where he was at. THis is why he says he went to RVC in the first place.
Any reasonable person would conclude that Zimmerman is lying about what happened.
We only have to view the recording of the Hannity Interview to see the lengths to which he will go to try and fool people into thinking that he did not hang around.
Hannity does the build-up:
HANNITY: And coming up, just what happened during that fateful missing minute just before the shooting. George Zimmerman, he will tell us coming up next.
HANNITY: What did you do from that moment forward? Because this is where we get into this minute gap in this case, you know, and what did you do from that minute forward when the dispatch said "we don't need you to follow him?" What did you do next?
HANNITY: How long was it, George, after that, that you saw Trayvon again? Because you said you stopped, that you did not continue pursuing him. When did you next see Trayvon Martin?
ZIMMERMAN: Less than 30 seconds.
There are two outrageous lies here
- The ‘gap’ that people might have heard about is only a minute – and it begins at “We don’t need you to do that”.
- Martin attacked Zimmerman less than 30 seconds later. Poor Zimmerman had no chance to get back to his truck after he stopped following. Right?
MOM sat po-faced beside Zimmerman while he delivered those breathtaking falsehoods.
Why is Zimmerman in such a state of denial about following?
Why is Zimmerman going to such extreme lengths to give a false impression that he did not linger?
Any reasonable person would conclude that he went in search of Martin.
Speaking of "Reasonable Persons"...
Take a look at my notes on the Jury Instructions page.
The Lauer 911 Event ReportThe original is available on page 9 of the States 7th Supplementary Discovery - available at
Note the header:
ANI.ALI: 02/26/2012 19:16:00
Connection: 02/26/2012 19:16:11
Created: 02/26/2012 19:16:35
The "ANI/ALI" is the time that the system detects the incoming 911.
The "Connection" is the time that the dispatcher picks up the call.
The "Created" is the time that the dispatcher enters the first comments into the system.
The ANI/ALI information is not filled in on NEN calls (for anonymity). It is filled in for 911 calls.
More info at http://www.911dispatch.com/911/911glossary.html